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Monday, February 13, 2012

In the beginning - Reconstructing history from myth


“Histories became legend, and legends became myth… Winners became heroes and heroes became gods …Losers became villains and villains became demons.”


What if our history began like this? Compiled by correlating the similarities in mythologies across the globe.


Asura was the first god as per Rig Veda. Some people also called him Ahura Mazda (Zoroastrians), the lord of light and wisdom. His power prevailed during the Golden era (Satya Yug) of human civilization ruled by the fourth and the greatest king of all times, Yama Raja, also known as Jamshid. Yama was a Suryavanshi  and was also called Shani or Saturn, the Roman king of Golden Age, closely related to the Greek deity Cronus. Even though later all the different names of Yama became separate gods, there is still a lot common between them. Who Asura actually was is a mystery, but he definitely was like a godfather to the great king.

Yama's kingdom was at it's peak when Asura, like the matsya avatar of Vishnu, warned Yama of an upcoming catastrophe. He advised Yima to construct a boat and populate it with the fittest of men and women, a pair of all animals and plants, and enough supply of food and water. As per his wish Yima constructed a boat/Ark. This story became famous and spread in the ancient mythologies all around the world. But how? Probably because they all had a common source. 

In Mesopotamia ‘Manu means boat or Ark (//www.indoeurohome.com/rohina.html). But in German and Indian story Manu is the progenitor of mankind, from whom the English word Man, Mankind and hu-man originate (English is a Ger'man'ic language).  Manu, also son of Sun god like Yima and Shani, is probably the same person as King Yama. That makes Manu and Yama the same person as Noah (Nao means boat in India). In China the character means boat. The character combine of (which means vessel), (meaning eight), (meaning mouth).   and  together sometimes also have a meaning of person, and adding would make it eight people in the boat just like in Noah’s story (http://creationwiki.org/Chinese_characters_for_Noah's_ark). 

The flood is probably related with a global climate change with sudden rise of sea level. There was also onset of glaciation that led to the migration of these people (Aryans?) to warmer areas. Yama’s (Jamshid/ Noah/ Manu/ Shani/ Yima/ Saturn/ Cronus) tribe migrated to Sumeria , land of the civilized lords. From here some of the gang migrated eastward to India and settled in the Indus Valley during Bronze Age while others like Huang Ti ( 2697–2597 BC), the fabled "Yellow Emperor", led his people to China (http://www.creationism.org/csshs/v07n4p24.htm). Rest stayed back or spread in Europe.

The Zoroastrians, who stayed back in Sumeria prayed to Ahura as opposed to the tribe that came to India and prayed to Devas. For the Zoroastrians the Devas became Daevas which originally meant ‘the shining ones’. Later Daevas became ‘younger gods’, ‘wrong gods’ or demons. For the Indian tribe Devas were the true gods while Asura became the devil. The fights between these two clans became the main theme of Puranas.

Ahura Mazada has a lot of similarity with YHWH, the god of Jews, Christians and Islam (http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/15283-zoroastrianism). It was Vishnu for Hindus, Ahura for Zoroastrians and YHWH for Jews and later Christians and Muslims, who warned Manu/Yima/Noah about the great flood. Interesting how the idea of ‘God’ (different from the natural pagan god’s earth, air, fire, water) of major religions of the world seems to have a common source. One wonders how much truth is there to all these stories. However, the similarity of the myths of different people around the world and the possibility of a common origin is remarkable. 




50 remarks:

  1. wow, well researched and interesting to know about the similarities in our differences ! Wish all of us realize this soon...

    www.nitinjain.blogspot.com

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  2. hmmmm good one , you have researched a lot ..

    but end of the day I think all these are man written, no one actually knows it was the truth or is the truth .. we are taking someone's word on all this :)

    Bikram's

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    1. yea...more than the stories it's the uniqueness of the stories that interests me ... :)

      thanks :)

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  3. Good post. I too have been looking at myths and trying to discover the underlying history. Have been focusing on the Rig Veda based myths:

    You may find this link interesting: http://rigvedaanalysis.wordpress.com/2012/02/01/the-vrtra-and-vala-myths/

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    1. thanks a lot Yatin....will check :)

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  4. A good post Sub! Informative indeed and spans across the globe to establish the common links:)

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  5. interesting post...quite informative....kudos to all u ve researched...:)

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  6. Good Post- well surmised. Your opening statement tells it all- though it is widely accepted that history is the story of the winner. Asuras vs Devas; But then the winner depends on which side you are. Great Job!

    Sekhar

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  7. How much homework you did man for this post....its just not a post but a research work for sure.....AWESOME...!!!

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  8. I would like this post to continue... I want to keep on reading on this subject.

    A profound work... I am hungry for more

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  9. I am hungry for more.

    The post was a wonderful journey and I would like you to keep it in motion.

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  10. Great post. So informative. Hats off :-)
    And as someone said, it all depends on which side we take.
    Wonderful :-)

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  11. This is a fantastic post ... I have been fortunate to travel a lot of the world and religion/mythology that greatly interests me ... While talking to people from different countries I realized there is much in common between all the religious stories and essentially principles of religious morality. But I also think that the moment you take the veil of religious rituals is thrown away and gods are considered humans first one realizes that we the man kind aren't very different from each others. This arguments needs special attention when we see the world fighting over "YOUR GOD and MY GOD" and makes one wonder over are we truly moving toward a progress for the greater good or going back to the days of middle ages and crusades across the "holy land"

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    1. great to know that...thanks a lot :)

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  12. It's always a treat of knowledge to be here.. really an informative post.. Wasn't active for a while.. but the tough days are gone .. great work :)

    Weakest LINK

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    1. welcome back...thanks a lot Rachit :)

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  13. I have been hearing a lot about history being written by winners in the past few months. All the people we grew up thinking to be heroes and villains are changing colors.

    The mention of great flood in Hindu mythology and the other religion has always intrigued me since my childhood. Being born a muslim, educated in Convent and growing up in Hindu neighborhood had me all confused and also the similarities were shocking.

    Like usual it is treat to read your blog where you flow against the tide and create something very unique and different.
    Keep blogging

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  14. Whoa!
    A hardcore researched post.

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  15. It is crazy how everything comes back around as being unified. Some people hate one another based on their religious beliefs. Really most of us are after similar things. We all want what is best in the end.

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  16. RESEARCH FELLOW :D :D
    awesome post !
    new info to me
    -Dee..

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  17. I have read similar views that talk of similarity between all the religions in terms of all the Kings being the Gods of the skies, thunder and rain. Be it Indra, or Greek God Zeus or the Roman Jupiter. There was also talk of Aliens who visited and controlled the skies like these Gods did, leading to similarities!

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    1. Erich Von Daniken????

      yea, it is interesting :)
      thanks

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  18. That was a thought provoking and interesting post Sub. There are similarities as well as few differences. Seeing it through a clear mind is what is required.

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  19. I always thought the concept of Devas and Asuras was symbolic to represent the clash of clans. Some people say it's the clash between Aryans and Dravidians as the Aryans reached Indus and "drove" the Dravidians down. This view (an Aryan Invasion) never had any archaeological proof. Linguists have hinted at a common source near Sumeria. Interesting to know that they pray to Ahura while having Devas as the villains in their stories. Vindicates the presence of a common source to the origins of civilization.

    Have been following your blog for a while. Haven't commented much but I can't deny that reading your posts has helped me retain some sanity through my days of doomed research. Here's an award I would like to pass onto you. http://interstate42.blogspot.com/p/updates.html
    Thanks again.

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  20. that was a nice research.. we cant say how much true it is? but its alz great reading u. sorry for being late

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  21. your posts are treat 4 readers... agree with all of them that its a
    'research' :P not a simple post !!

    In the most elemental form the teachings and base of many of the religions are same... but different name and form is given to them..
    and as u have mentioned there exists differences too...
    Its interesting to know that how 2 entirely different cultures share some common threads.

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  22. I think I saw King Yama yesterday when I went to the Nelson Atkins Art Museum. I could have seen Samundra Manthan to, but I'm not for sure.

    That story is really put together well!!!

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    1. I know I commented before, but two comments aren't bad. I really like the art in this post.

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    2. oh...that's interesting....

      double thanks :)

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  23. wonderful research, some of which I have known, although I am not sure that ahura and the demons asura are same. The book of enoch speaks about fallen angels who took human wives and had giant children. they gave away knowledge of the stars astronomy etc which were hidden from mankind. God rid the earth of them through the flood it seems....
    As for the common thread of who is God..I would say..Oom, the same as Ganesh, the same as Shiv, the same as the Word, Ik onkar, naad Brahma.. Check this out
    http://jerlyt.blogspot.in/2007/12/section-ii-chr9-vedic-approach-to-god.html

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    1. yes, in a way....truth has many faces depending on how you look at it....at the end , no matter where you look from it is the same..
      thanks

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  24. Really Awesome article. It's very helpful and informative article. Thank you for sharing.

    ECG Paper

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